But that is of course a question of believe I personally believe that we manipulate the universe all the time. Even if we would kill our self we would manipulate the universe. And we ,"human", is a part of the universe. All our choses are consiqenses of the other choses of universe as a whole.

I don't see why it would come back threefold. The only way that could happen in my believe is if someone actually took action and trow a curse on you.

BUT! A love spell may actually be a curse. Be carefull so that you dont curse yourself I would say.

PS, I know this thread is "dead" but I wantet to point that out:$

yes, we are a part of the universe. but i dont exactly undersand how we can manipulate the universe if we kill our self.can you please explain what you point is again.

My point is that if we are part of universe. We are universe. And if we are universe it dosn't matter if we want it or not, we effect it in every act. And suicide is an act. And an act has its consiquenses. Why? Becouse All is realted, and thats becous there is somthing called universe. If someone should't manipulate the universe there would not be any consiqueses of this mans actions. That man would be lost in eternity without dying, without living. He wouldn't exist. We all are related and we all manipulate eachother and the universe as a whole.

I'm an expert at making things more complicated than they are. Sorry if I confuse you. A suicide is one of millions of possibiliteis. An act like suicide is forced upon someone by others. Those might not even know it. And the consiquenses of the act will effect other people around. Who knows, maybe the savour of the future just tok her life as I whrote this? Or maybe she just effect the souruondings. But still, a boy may get in on a scool he wouldn't if she was still alive.

You'r with me?

yes, now i am kinda getting what you are saying.

but, as you said, everyting has its consiquences and so does interfearing with one's will. and i believe that what ever youdo, comes back to you 3 times more, be it positive or negative, which is the 3fold law.

I must say. I can't fit the 3fold law in my way of seing it. Maybe I misses somthing. I need to meditate on that. I don't say i'm right or you wrong. I just....I have just denyed the law becous it feeld like a way to set fear into peoples heart so they would be esyer to maipulate. I havn't actualy pay much thought about it could be somthing positive. I will se if I can fit it in my filosofy

Desmond the three law, is just something someone believes. You don't have to believe in if you don't want too. It's mostly part of the Wiccan religion, and i am a wiccan. But you do not have to be a wiccan to believe in the three law. Its just something you choose to accept or you don't. Its basicly like what comes around goes around. But in others opinions you get what comes around times three.