from what I can tell, there is no sex change spell that these people know, if one exists and someone presents themselves to you with it, it wont be on a forum such as this

thanks for getting off topic with this thread, that really disappointed me the most, I should have known since I posted a similar thread on the witchcraft forums and got mostly flamed by non believers that this would be no better

know this, I will find what I seek, one way or another I will, the "old ones" you speak of are 20,000 years old? they are too young then to know what I seek

I am sorry I bothered you all, enjoy your forums
Jenna

WELL WILDSPRITE,
JUST FROM SOMEBODY WHO'S BEEN DOING THIS FOR 30+ YEARS... IF ANYBODY WOULD KNOW ABOUT THAT KIND OF SPELL I'M SURE THAT THEY WOULD NOT POST IT IN AN OPEN FORUM. WE HAVE ALL LEARNED FROM OUR ELDERS AND WE WILL PASS OUR KNOWLEDGE ON TO SOMEBODY OF OUR OWN CHOOSING AND NOT REVEAL EVERYTHING ON THE WWW. A WISE AND POWERFUL SOCERER SAID SOME WISE WORDS WHICH I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE....
"THE KEY TO BECOMING A GREAT PRACTITIONER OF MAGIC IS NOT IN KNOWING MANY SPELLS, CHANTS AND WHAT-HAVE-YOU, BUT RATHER "HOW TO THINK" LIKE ONE AND HAVING THE WISDOM AND KNOWING WHAT TO APPLY AND WHERE TO APPLY IT. ALSO, SECRETCY IS VITAL TO THIS WORK SO THE LESS YOU SAY ABOUT WHAT IT IS YOU ARE DOING, THE BETTER OFF YOU ARE."
I HOPE YOU GET THE IDEA. AS EVERTHING ELSE MAGICK TAKES A LOT OF WORK AND COMMITMENT AND IT IS A UNGOING LEARNING EXPIRIENCE AND YOU CANNOT EXPECT TO BE HANDED EVERYTHING ON A SILVER PLATTER.
ROMANA

you misunderstand me completely, I came here asking for help, not necessarily for someone to do it for me, but maybe a guide to help me create the ritual itself would be wonderful, what do I get instead, people saying it cannot be done, I know this is not true, then after that I get people go off topic talking about games, very disappointing, so let me rephrase my question "is there anyone willing to help me to create this spell or ritual?" I am not unwilling to work hard to make it happen, if you are willing you would PM me if you don't want to post it here or you could email me fantom69@netzero.net

I am sorry for those of you who misunderstand what I am asking for, I am asking for help, not asking for you to do it for me


thanks
Jenna

I'm sorry but I've NEVER heard of it even being alluded to anywhere. I've searched alchemical texts and the most ancient texts I could find and there is no legend, myth or hint.

At this point I'm wondering what is going on that would make you desire to be "other". Can we talk about this Jenna?
I keep getting some rather deep pain when I read your posts, but, not knowing you really well, I can't tell if it's yours or if your question is causing some pain in me. So let's talk about the why of this maybe we can figure out something together.

Can't someone just answer his question and help him instead of flaming him and talking about D&D! This guy needs help, not arguments and insults! It IS possible. I'm new to magic, but I do know this: Physical form is changeable, even without magic. Your body changes on it's own, for example, AGE. This physical world has the weakest bonds. You guys talk about difficulty, this guy wants a spell. You guys say it will take a lot of energy. If you can find a way to channel energy, tell the poor guy how to, not argue! I do have an idea: Crystals, they give of energy. you can channel the energies from them towards yourself. Matter IS energy, if you can channel energy, magic is energy, you should be able to channel matter. It might be hard. but if we get help from these "Experts" we might get somewhere. don't get mad at met for bringing this up.

Look.
I worked for years to channel the energy to change me from "the fat girl" to a normal human form. That energy finaly came at the end of a surgeons knife.

What Jenna is asking is not possible as far as I know or can find. And yes, I did actually look and ask others who have different areas of study than I do. There is not even a sideways refference to what she wants.

Then you also NEED to take a look at the psychology of someone asking for this. There is a problem or unhappiness there that won't go away with a physical change. It will follow and haunt untill the root of the problem is dealt with. I know this from experience too.

BTW... I never said I was an "expert". I've just been around the block a time or two. Honestly I could spend the rest of my life devoted to the study of nothing but magic and still go to my grave just a student. Never approaching the level of "expert".